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	<title>Comments on: Alternative Viewpoints: &#8220;Liquidity Insurance&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Gary</title>
		<link>http://allaboutalpha.com/blog/2008/03/03/alternative-viewpoints-liquidity-insurance/comment-page-1/#comment-89409</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 00:09:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You said it yourself, this contract would be worthless except in a &quot;liquidity event&quot;. In that case, what we really want to be managing is the &#039;more extreme form&#039; (vs. the less extreme form that you talk about here).

In a situation where we&#039;re long a stock and want to manage this risk, we want something to protect us from downside jumps (which could also be caused simply by us exiting a large position in illiquid times, the less extreme form). I recall that LOR (of portfolio insurance infamy) offered something called &quot;jump protection&quot; as an extra product, I don&#039;t recall the details of implementation unfortunately.

I think this could be accomplished with an OTM put that is restruck daily (or weekly) at VWAP. On a $100 stock (r=5%, vol=15%), a 5% OTM put restruck weekly would cost $0.20/sh per year</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You said it yourself, this contract would be worthless except in a &#8220;liquidity event&#8221;. In that case, what we really want to be managing is the &#8216;more extreme form&#8217; (vs. the less extreme form that you talk about here).</p>
<p>In a situation where we&#8217;re long a stock and want to manage this risk, we want something to protect us from downside jumps (which could also be caused simply by us exiting a large position in illiquid times, the less extreme form). I recall that LOR (of portfolio insurance infamy) offered something called &#8220;jump protection&#8221; as an extra product, I don&#8217;t recall the details of implementation unfortunately.</p>
<p>I think this could be accomplished with an OTM put that is restruck daily (or weekly) at VWAP. On a $100 stock (r=5%, vol=15%), a 5% OTM put restruck weekly would cost $0.20/sh per year</p>
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		<title>By: Vera Greenberg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vera Greenberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 14:36:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here are a few thoughts that I had about this article:

- Given that securitization desks in banks and trading desks are separated by a &quot;chinese wall,&quot; how would the issuer of the bond have better knowledge of liquidity than the market?

- How would the issuer of this instrument hedge himself? One way that I thought of, is with a put (this way when the issuer receives the stock, they have someone who is obligated to buy is from him). But figuring out the strike is problematic and buying a portfolio of puts is expensive. Any thoughts?

- How would you know that the price moved because of the sale of this specific transaction and not some rebalancing at the end of the month by a pension fund? How would you model this -- it would probably be using some proprietary data, as I do not know of any data tracking execution vs mid-price.

This article definitely opens up the floor to a bigger discussion. Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here are a few thoughts that I had about this article:</p>
<p>- Given that securitization desks in banks and trading desks are separated by a &#8220;chinese wall,&#8221; how would the issuer of the bond have better knowledge of liquidity than the market?</p>
<p>- How would the issuer of this instrument hedge himself? One way that I thought of, is with a put (this way when the issuer receives the stock, they have someone who is obligated to buy is from him). But figuring out the strike is problematic and buying a portfolio of puts is expensive. Any thoughts?</p>
<p>- How would you know that the price moved because of the sale of this specific transaction and not some rebalancing at the end of the month by a pension fund? How would you model this &#8212; it would probably be using some proprietary data, as I do not know of any data tracking execution vs mid-price.</p>
<p>This article definitely opens up the floor to a bigger discussion. Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Ranjan Bhaduri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ranjan Bhaduri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 21:17:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a footnote to my previous comment, I noticed that the Liquidity Derivatives paper that I cowrote with Gunter Meissner and James Youn is available on the internet for free(not for distribution):

http://www.caia.org/ai/journalofalternativeinvestments/

(it is the featured article on the CAIA website, at the right side of the page, and one may access it by pressing the link which states &quot;Read the Full Text&quot;).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a footnote to my previous comment, I noticed that the Liquidity Derivatives paper that I cowrote with Gunter Meissner and James Youn is available on the internet for free(not for distribution):</p>
<p><a href="http://www.caia.org/ai/journalofalternativeinvestments/" rel="nofollow">http://www.caia.org/ai/journalofalternativeinvestments/</a></p>
<p>(it is the featured article on the CAIA website, at the right side of the page, and one may access it by pressing the link which states &#8220;Read the Full Text&#8221;).</p>
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		<title>By: Ranjan Bhaduri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ranjan Bhaduri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 19:42:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Konstantin,

Thanks for the excellent post! This idea of a liquidity derivative similar to a CDS contract is something that can be explored further in the Winter 2007 issue of the Journal of Alternative Investments. Gunter Meissner, James You, and I wrote a paper that was published in that issue entitled &quot;Hedging Liquidity Risk: Potential Solutions for Hedge Funds&quot;. Without rapping too much, I think that this is an idea that can add tremendous value in portfolio management for Pensions, Endowments, and Fund of Hedge Funds. It is a simple, natural, and effective solution. Again, thanks for your post - it is indeed positive that people like you are thinking seriously about liquidity solutions.

Kind Regards,
Ranjan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Konstantin,</p>
<p>Thanks for the excellent post! This idea of a liquidity derivative similar to a CDS contract is something that can be explored further in the Winter 2007 issue of the Journal of Alternative Investments. Gunter Meissner, James You, and I wrote a paper that was published in that issue entitled &#8220;Hedging Liquidity Risk: Potential Solutions for Hedge Funds&#8221;. Without rapping too much, I think that this is an idea that can add tremendous value in portfolio management for Pensions, Endowments, and Fund of Hedge Funds. It is a simple, natural, and effective solution. Again, thanks for your post &#8211; it is indeed positive that people like you are thinking seriously about liquidity solutions.</p>
<p>Kind Regards,<br />
Ranjan</p>
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 18:50:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Likewise, a Ã¢â‚¬liquidity insuranceÃ¢â‚¬ contract could be issued by the institutions that have knowledge of the true liquidity of a certain stock.&quot;

You may be more informed than I am, but it&#039;s my impression that the banks don&#039;t have a very good understanding of liquidity -- and therefore are not equipped to sell this contract.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Likewise, a Ã¢â‚¬liquidity insuranceÃ¢â‚¬ contract could be issued by the institutions that have knowledge of the true liquidity of a certain stock.&#8221;</p>
<p>You may be more informed than I am, but it&#8217;s my impression that the banks don&#8217;t have a very good understanding of liquidity &#8212; and therefore are not equipped to sell this contract.</p>
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		<title>By: Alea &#124; #Links</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alea &#124; #Links</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 12:38:50 +0000</pubDate>
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